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Another OTR another problem & thankgod for the problem….

Hey Guys
I took the CJ3B for another OTR on the 16th May 2009. Although the performance was OK, but the heating issue raised its ugly head once again. I thought that the heating issue was at bay, but as the vehicle was giving a lot of black smoke I decided to get the following job done. Whether this was a blessing in disguise or a curse, only time will tell 😉

I gave the vehicle to the mechanic in Mayapuri on the 11th of May and got it back the next day. The job list was

  • Carburetor Service
  • Change the piston rings
  • Put in a new fuel pump
  • Change the electronic fuel pump to UCAL

These job was done and had cost me a total of Rs.4,600!!!
Here are the details
(Head Gasket 120, Chamber Packing 20, 5 Liter Mobil Oil 825, 1 set piston rings 320, 1 hose pipe 50, Misc 350, Fuel Pump 750, Electronic Pump 525, Labor 1600 Kerosene Oil Cleaning 100) Although I gave the vehicle to get rid of the while smoke, I dint know at that time that just by being there for one night, it will catch the old illness once again.

For the next couple of days I took it trice back to Mayapuri to solve the issue, but in vain. So not giving much thought to it I decided to take it for an OTR but wasn’t I in for a rude shock and that too a very nasty one.
read on
OTR Day 16th
I left my home with the radiator full of water, picked up my cousin from DLF, and see what. Radiator was almost empty. Reached the meet up point DLF Golf Course, water finish again. I was simply fed up and frustrated. To cut the long story short, all in all the vehicle consumed more than 15-16 liters of water during the entire OTR and on the way back to my home even stalled on ridge road. Imagine 1AM in the morning and your vehicle refuses to move an inch. I was so tired that for a split second my mind flirted with the thought of maybe selling it. But maybe I was lucky, it started after a couple of minutes and I reached back safely.

17th May 2009
Next Day morning

But next day in the morning I thought that it couldn’t be all that bad. After all its a piece machinery and there’s nothing that can’t be fixed. Also at the same time I decided that Mayapuri is not the place for petrol engines. The fault was not in the 3B, the fault was in Mayapuri. These guys are simply not up to it or they do not understand it. So I called up Jasvinder Singh who is a member of Northern India Off-Road Club (NIOC) and owns a garage in Noida. The mechanic he has is very competent and many of the NIOC veterans vouch for his workmanship.
I called him up early and my vehicle was at his workshop at 11 AM on Sunday the 17th of May 2009.

At the Garage
I went to the workshop with the intention of getting the complete engine overhaul. The things on top of my mind were the heating issue and the slippage of the High-Low lever from High ratio into neutral. So I told him that I just wanted a reliable vehicle and he should do whatever he feels is correct. But at the same time I too told him that I have spent a fortune in first buying 3 vehicles (MM550, CJ3B & WILLYS 3B) so I do not that that much money to spare and he should do the bare essentials.
The best thing I liked is that the mechanic had a look at the vehicle, he simple said that the engine does not require an engine overhaul. WHAT!!!
He said that the certain settings needed to be done like valve timings, tappet settings, radiator was local and needed to be changed and many other things. But the engine dint need an overhaul. I was impressed. Even thought I went there with the intention of doing the complete overhaul, he said that you want to spend the money then spend it, but the engine does not need an overhaul.
So I simply said that do whatever needs to be done and get it working like it should. Flawlessly!!!

28th May, 2009
During the time the vehicle was there

  • The radiator has been changed. The old one was leaking from the bottom
  • The head gasket was leaking and water was seeping in the 2nd and 3rd chamber. So this has been replaced. Strangely the head gasket was replaced at Mayapuri thrice , but I believe that those gaskets must have been local and were giving way under pressure or wouldn’t have been installed properly. But I am not surprised anymore
  • The Carburetor has been serviced. There was lot of dirt in it. This too was serviced in Mayapuri.
  • The transfer along with the gearbox has been overhauled and one of the gears/ rotors was completely worn out and since been changed.
  • The engine has been tuned. Tapets &and Valves have been set. (Now to me all this is rocket science I have just heard and reproducing it) ;-))

The work on the CJ3B is now complete. I told Jasvinder to drive around the vehicle for a couple of days and see whether any issue crops up. as I was certainly in no hurry. Also as there was an OTR coming up on Sunday the 31st May, 09, he and me me agreed that he will get the vehicle to the OTR venue and drive it around to see if any more issues remained to be resolved. This way I could drive around in the 550, which I was very eager, and my 3B could also be tested. Further by doing it this way, I was saved the effort of first getting the vehicle from Noida to my home, then driving it to the OTR and god forbid any issue crops up again taking it back to Noida. So this was the best way out.

31st May 2009

Well I would say the the performance of my 3B couldn’t be better at the OTR. No heating, no stalling. Nothinig!!!
The CJ3B was driven from Noida to Gorgaon, did the OTR and the terrain was sand, rock etc, so driving was mostly in 4×4 many times needing the low ratio too. No heating NOTHING!!!
I couldn’t be happier. After a long time I truly enjoyed my vehicles. The performance of the 550 was great and the 3B was also very well behaved. In fact Jasvinder told be that they filled up the radiator with coolant 3 days back and drove it in Noida for 30-40 kms, then from Noida to Gurgaon, did the OTR and then back to Noida. He din’t add a drop of water in it. I was surprised as it was too good to true, but luckily it was.
The 4×4 slippage was finished, the sound of the engine, What sound the sound had vanished and I could simply hear the sound of the fan. Good job accomplished. Now I think why I din’t go there earlier. Had I did, I would have saved if not money but at least lots of time and effort.

I brought the vehicle from Noida yesterday back home and was driving at speeds of 70-75km/hr and no heating. Infact the temperature refuses to go above 60. It actually stays between 40-60 and in crawling traffic too, is between 60-80 degrees. Now I think that I need a thermostat as the optimum temperature the engine should run is around 80 degrees or so. But let me enjoy this new found luxury for some days.
Total bill at the workshop Rs.11,000/- which included the radiator for 4,000 bucks and 2500 for the gearbox and transfer case overhaul. All in all I would rate the job satisfaction 100 out of 100. Infact 110 out of 100.

All comments and suggestions are most welcome.

Here are some pictures of the CJ3B at the 31st May’s OTR

Some more random shots

Yours truly ;-))

Chilling out at Rockman’s Beer Island post OTR

My MM550

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